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. there is nothing that you can possibly say but talk in circles. >> that's a good point. his defense is that the web site doesn't work. the entire linchpin of healthcare.gov doesn't work. that's why these numbers you are citing doesn't necessarily work. steve hayes says this goes beyond the numbers for the administration. listen. >> this has moved from a theoretical debate over the past three years to real numbers where people are doing real math. i mean, people are getting these letters. these are not made up things. people who have household budgets are trying to find a way to make this work. and the problem for the administration is they can spin it and jay carney can refuse to geoff i. give out the enrollment numbers and they can play games with the timing of some of this but it doesn't matter. ultimately the numbers are what they are. >> meanwhile democrats running for re-election are upset and nervous about this as rightly they should be. they held a closed door meeting. they are concerned that this goes beyond just the web site problems. but there are real structural issues with obama care. a
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